Because the entire Jewish nation is traumatized, not many expect that point to ever be reached, which might be another way of saying that the Jews are "happy in their portion." I think we are near the end of this way of seeing the world. At some point, hopefully soon, the Jews themselves will be the ones to proclaim to the World that it's not about the Jews, after all. At that time, what will sustain the Jews will be what will sustain all of humanity.
That's on me. I was not writing clearly. I'm not sure now what I was trying to say. Your initial question is so powerful! I wish I had just let it stand as is. The traditional answer as you may know is that the righteous will bask in the glory of God. What I like about your question is that is is general and particular (and also, with no real need to mention the Jewish people). What becomes of us as individuals, or as families, tribes, nations, if we obtain it all? I think that the working premise in the world as we know it is that there is no limit to wants and desires. Maybe meaning that the world as it exits is not sustainable if these disappear for whatever reason. In this light, I think that the Jewish meaning of Hope would be to see the transformation of a world operating under these impulses as primary into a world where these impulses are not controlling, but are controlled.
Thanks, Ehud. I agree, but it's not you. I attend a study group each week and find some of the discussion arcane. Also, we are like economists: 10 people, 11 opinions
Fascinating. So it makes me wonder, then, if all the hopes of the Jewish people were to be fulfilled, what would sustain them then.
Because the entire Jewish nation is traumatized, not many expect that point to ever be reached, which might be another way of saying that the Jews are "happy in their portion." I think we are near the end of this way of seeing the world. At some point, hopefully soon, the Jews themselves will be the ones to proclaim to the World that it's not about the Jews, after all. At that time, what will sustain the Jews will be what will sustain all of humanity.
That makes Sense, I think. I have to say I find these discussions fascinating but difficult to fully comprehend
That's on me. I was not writing clearly. I'm not sure now what I was trying to say. Your initial question is so powerful! I wish I had just let it stand as is. The traditional answer as you may know is that the righteous will bask in the glory of God. What I like about your question is that is is general and particular (and also, with no real need to mention the Jewish people). What becomes of us as individuals, or as families, tribes, nations, if we obtain it all? I think that the working premise in the world as we know it is that there is no limit to wants and desires. Maybe meaning that the world as it exits is not sustainable if these disappear for whatever reason. In this light, I think that the Jewish meaning of Hope would be to see the transformation of a world operating under these impulses as primary into a world where these impulses are not controlling, but are controlled.
Thanks, Ehud. I agree, but it's not you. I attend a study group each week and find some of the discussion arcane. Also, we are like economists: 10 people, 11 opinions
Ps thanks for the full explanation. I have some thoughts, but is difficult using a phone. Laters