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Ehud Neor's avatar

My eldest daughter was a tour guide for the Wall tunnels for two years. I received VIP treatment whenever I went. :) I want to think about what you wrote here. I will comment later.

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Isha Yiras Hashem's avatar

Sounds like Dara Horn’s the Eicha problem, which I plan to post about sometime. I think it is wrong.

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Ehud Neor's avatar

What is Dara Horn's the Eicha problem?

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Isha Yiras Hashem's avatar

She argues that anti-semitism would be solved if rather than reading Lamentations, we read Job.

I've written a post about it but don't want to put it out during highly stressful times.

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Ehud Neor's avatar

I don't want to be a buzz-killer, but if you wait until times are less stressful, you may be depriving your readers for a long time...:)

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Isha Yiras Hashem's avatar

Yes, well, I want it to be a positive influence in the world and not lead to infighting or resentment. I am planning to rewrite it as an explanation of what Jewish exile is, without reference to the ideas I originally wrote it to counter.

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Ehud Neor's avatar

Then I will wait patiently. btw, have you noticed that the infighting and resentment index is down lately?

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Alan Mairson's avatar

Excellent post.

One question: What is the Jewish question, framed as a question, that Hitler wanted to eradicate, once and for all?

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Ehud Neor's avatar

I'm not sure I understand you. Hitler wanted to eradicate the Jews, once and for all. No questions asked.

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Alan Mairson's avatar

The Jewish *Question*.

I’m looking for a sentence that ends with a ?

What is the Jewish question, posed as a question?

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David Kopel's avatar

I would be the one standing sideways at the Walll, unable to commit to either side. That's probably because I'm not Israeli, don't speak Hebrew and don't have much skin in the game. However, I was in Israel for the first time in 35 years last October and over that long hiatus, I have been reading all about the great divides in Israeli society. However, when I got there, I couldn't feel it. I mean, I could see obvious differences between Dizengoff and Mea Shearim, but they all seemed like planets in the same Jewish orbit. Maybe this was just the residual effect of my youthful Zionism idealism. It's just that I don't know any Jewish families in America that don't scream at each other--a lot.

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Ehud Neor's avatar

"Standing sideways at the Wall..." Substack needs to add an option: Comments before the post is written. David, this one phrase of yours is golden and I admit to you right here that as soon as I read your comment I understood that I must rewrite the post. Thank you.

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David Kopel's avatar

The post is fine the way it is. It asks the Jew where they stand in all of this. Fair question.

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David Kopel's avatar

There also is no solution to the "Jewish question." Because it has become manifest to the entire world that the great unfolding of history is taking place in Israel, whether they like it or not. History followed the Jews back from exile, and this enrages everyone, especially the ones who drove them out in the first place. No one wants to believe that prophecy is real and they're not a part of it. But the evidence keeps piling up, to the point that even atheists and agnostics can't deny it. As Israel once again swings from the precipice to total victory, the powers that be are befuddled, irate and inconsolable by the reality that there is a force greater than themselves.

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Ehud Neor's avatar

I wish I had said that.

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David Kopel's avatar

High praise coming from you.

I've read everything you've posted for 3 years.

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Rebekah Lee's avatar

I'm looking forward to the G-d fearing woman's post and discussion re Eicha v Job.

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Bob Goldberg's avatar

Excellent analysis and not just because I wound up with sort of the same answer in my latest piece !

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